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The Daily Dish
Break-ups, bad haircuts, Brangelina ... whatever's being dished at the water cooler, Catherine E. Toth — a.k.a. Cat — has something to say about it. She writes about everything from relationships to reality TV.
Reach Catherine at cat@thecatdish.com.
Posted on: January 11, 2008 at 5:00:00 am
What's wrong with crying?

It's the video that shook up voters in New Hampshire — and political strategists across the nation:

Presidential candidate Hillary Clinton, on the brink of tears in a cafe on Tuesday.

The near-tearful interview stirred that age-old — and outdated, in my opinion — debate: Are women "man" enough to run this country?

As an editorial in the Atlanta Journal-Constitution pointed out yesterday, 20 years ago, it didn't fly. When Rep. Pat Schroeder cried after pulling out of the presidential race, critics argued she — and women everywhere — weren't "tough" enough for the White House.

But men? Different story.

Men who cry are often viewed as sensitive, compassionate, real. But women who cry are weak and emotionally unstable — utterly unfit to lead anything, let alone the Free World.

My, how things have changed!

That interview showed a more human side of Clinton, one that may have prompted the majority of women over 45 to vote for her over front-runner Barack Obama.

As New York Times columnist Maureen Dowd put it:

There was a poignancy about the moment, seeing Hillary crack with exhaustion from decades of yearning to be the principal rather than the plus-one. But there was a whiff of Nixonian self-pity about her choking up. What was moving her so deeply was her recognition that the country was failing to grasp how much it needs her. In a weirdly narcissistic way, she was crying for us. But it was grimly typical of her that what finally made her break down was the prospect of losing.

Of course, critics are challenging the authenticity of Clinton's emotional state, claiming that this was staged as a last-ditch attempt to earn the sympathy of undecided voters.

Maybe. But it worked. So what does that say about the American public?

Comments:

Comment from: Waver [Visitor]
It has an impact on those who have not yet made a choice, in any final sense. Show me a product that is not packaged with deliberation, and I'll show you a product that does not sell and disappears quickly. Even sellers at a small Saturday farmers' market spoend most of their time thinking, talking with others, and watching other sellers, regarding marketing. For the 30 percent of us who are firm for or against Hillary, after all we've seen a lot of her over almost 20 years, it makes no difference in the upcoming primary or general election.
Permalink 01/11/08 @ 05:23
Comment from: The Chicago Cousin [Visitor]
Who knows and who cares. We all knew it was going to be a tough race between her and Barack, and we have only began. There will be allot more tearful moments, more people attacking each other, my point being we have only started the caucuses. Richard Roeper from the Chicago SunTimes had an awesome article talking about how all of us were ready to crown Obama the winner after Iowa. Even though we are talking about a minute portion of our country's population. Let Hillary cry she got New Hampshire, but then again New Hampshire is less then 3% of our countrys population, and means nothing. Now the Cuz will go back to concentrating on how best to help Barack win this thing!!!!
Permalink 01/11/08 @ 05:40
Comment from: hemajang [Visitor]
Hillary showing her passion was calculated. Nothing weak or unstable about a person crying or showing emotion and many of our leaders have shed a tear or two. It was the human side of Hillary that she wanted to share and was displayed in a dignified and controlled way. A good move for her.
The confession by JJ on his tears when trying to decide whether to stay or go is in a way calculated to sway the public that he truly has Hawaii in his heart but needed to leave primarily to shed light on the conditions of the athletic department and hopefully bring change.
After years of observing politics and power, you can't help but be a cynic...we have been let down too many times.
Permalink 01/11/08 @ 06:17
Comment from: Ron [Visitor]
I don't think it was the public being swayed by her moment of emotion, as it was the use of electronic voting machines.

It's not about her emotion about losing the race. It's about her emotion about losing the country and it's future if we don't get involved and change it right now at all levels. On that point, I agree.
Permalink 01/11/08 @ 06:32
Comment from: Annoddah Dave [Visitor]
CAT,

Having seen the segment on the news it struck me as a bit of exhaustion more than true emotion. It is a grueling thing and trying to convince people that you are "the way and the light" is a tough sell in politics. Being a lawyer, her presentation skills have been finely honed just like any Oscar nominated actress to put the emotional spin on cue. In that respect, I agree with Hemajang.
Permalink 01/11/08 @ 06:45
Comment from: Annie [Visitor]
Regardless I don't think it is a gender issue. Worldwide we already have women leaders, strong ones at that. Now we just have to read into the context of why she teared up.
Permalink 01/11/08 @ 07:09
Comment from: HOP 2007 [Visitor]
I came away with the impression that she finally opened up and showed us that she is a sensitive human being, not a chattering robot on the campaign trail. If it is a calculated move, then she should not be in politics, but rather in the movies.
Permalink 01/11/08 @ 08:02
Comment from: jusamee [Visitor] · http://jusamee.vox.com
the only video clip i was able to view was quick and a bit blurry, so i don't really know if they were real or fake tears. but all presidential candidates and even after election play it up for the public. whatever their supposed weakness is they'll play it up. to judge her because she's a woman who "teared up" and saying that she's too emotional to lead the country just sounds stupid. so if one of the male candidates teared up they wouldn't be too sensitive or emotional...why? because supposedly men aren't? or because all women break down and cry when the white out doesn't work or because someone didn't say good morning? give me a break...are we saying that clinton crying is worse than the bumbling president we have now who's made up enough new words during his time as president to write a new dictionary?
Permalink 01/11/08 @ 08:12
Comment from: MoOgooGuypAN [Visitor] · http://www.moogooguypan.vox.com
It shows that the lady has compassion. It shows that maybe she actually does care for the country. Or it all could have been an act that worked very well in her favor. I used to work for lady who ran the company on pure emotions. If she was happy everyone was happy, if she was mad, everyone suffered. IDK, unless Hillary can make sould decisions in emotional situations, time will tell. But alas, I'm a local minority boy, who's gonna vote for a former local minority boy. BAMA! GO BAMA!
Permalink 01/11/08 @ 08:42
Comment from: HermieDaCrook.Edu [Visitor]
That was her last resort as she sees it slipping away.

Notice how Obama rose up after Oprah jumped on his bandwagon??
Permalink 01/11/08 @ 09:20
Comment from: Jon [Visitor]
Sadly, and in something of an irony, tears are a poor indicator of emotional states nowadays. Especially for people in the public eye, the longer they've been there, the less likely the show is emotional.

Or worse, the quality of their character (or lack thereof) can contribute to how genuine we believe the display to be. If you look at our situation with out politicians, we demand them to act a certain way and they put up a certain 'face' then we find out later they're into having illicit chats with the congressional pages, or cruise the bathrooms for dates, or embezzle millions, or cheat on their spouses, end up in madame's black books, etc etc.

As for the JJ stuff, can anyone verify if he did cry or not? Or was it just something he said to not burn bridges?
Permalink 01/11/08 @ 10:06
Comment from: Anna [Visitor]
I don't know if Clinton's crying (and really, her voice just cracked and she got a little misty-eyed) was calculated but it really irks me that in general in the blogosphere analysis there is this double-standard where when women cry it says they are weak, and when men cry it says they are sensitive and in touch with their emotions.
Permalink 01/11/08 @ 10:29
Comment from: franksabunch [Visitor] · http://www.xanga.com/franksabunch
I believe we have just found another case of crocodile tears.

I don't think the question is whether Hillary Clinton is "man" enough to win the presidency, but rather the opposite. Much of her negative image comes from the fact that she is [portrayed] as a cold, emotionless woman, which turns off some women voters, as well as men.

Clinton has never done anything that was not calculated or planned (including planting interview questions) and I find no reason to believe that her tears deviate from this fact?

If she truly was as caring as she wants us to believe, then those tears should've come after 9/11, when instead of showing her care and compassion, she was nowhere to be seen in NYC (as opposed to Giuliani rallying the people right after) but was indeed seen on TV...rolling her eyes during Bush's speech.

But like I said in Kim's blog, the American public, sadly, votes based not on integrity, but on perception. Good ol' Abe would've never won in a modern election.
Permalink 01/11/08 @ 10:54
Comment from: guest [Visitor]
How about Colt Brennan crying at the Sugar Bowl and Neil Everett trashing him about it hurting his NFL chances? That was really bad, the crying I mean. Suck it man and don't be a wuss.

14th!!!
Permalink 01/11/08 @ 11:05
Comment from: guest [Visitor]
oops Suck it UP
Permalink 01/11/08 @ 11:06
Comment from: turk fontaine [Visitor]
Yes! NIXON! That's who Hillary most resembles in her political persona. And that's exactly why I could vote for her.
Permalink 01/11/08 @ 11:37
Comment from: pablo wegesend [Visitor]
What irony!

When I was in school (in the 1990's), girls who cried get more sympathy than boys who cried. Boys who cried were considered "fags" and "sissies", whereas girls who cried got more sympathy and less stigma.

Now Ms Toth is telling us that in politics, it's the other way around.


Most adults would try Not to break down in front of others, but in reality, you can't hold it in forever. Sooner or later, tears are going to come out.

So if someone wants to cry, let them cry! You can't hold it in forever!
Permalink 01/11/08 @ 13:33
Comment from: lava [Visitor]
Who established that Hillary was a woman? Think about it.
Permalink 01/11/08 @ 14:31
Comment from: lab rat [Visitor]

I saw no crying. Just someone answering a question who was very tired.

Permalink 01/11/08 @ 14:39
Comment from: fdg [Visitor]
I don't know about male politicians who cry being seen as "sensative" and "in touch with their feelings." I think it would still hurt them, as it did to Edward Muskie years ago. I can't think of any male politicians who cried recently and were helped by it.
Permalink 01/11/08 @ 16:33
Comment from: stacyj [Visitor]
Unfortunately, I think a woman trying to hold a position of power is going to be viewed as weak if she cries. Some people want to know if things get bad in the white house, is she going to break down and cry because it is taking its toll on her (as she puts it).
Permalink 01/11/08 @ 18:41
Comment from: Brookie27 [Visitor]
The whole thing was overblown by the press...AGAIN. So the woman's voice cracked a bit. I don't think she cried. Maybe she was tired, feeling sorry for herself because BO was supposedly gonna beat her, or caught off guard with such a personal question. The fact is, she nailed the question and got through the interview. This is an example of how women are far superior in high pressure jobs. We can cry and still do the job. And another thing wonderful about being a woman....we can change our minds !!!!
Permalink 01/11/08 @ 19:00
Comment from: leesa [Visitor]
love your colum cat, but lately, WAY too many youtube videos, ease up a little o.k.?
Permalink 01/12/08 @ 04:58
Comment from: hemajang [Visitor]
Leesa, why way too many youtube videos? The only problem I have with streaming videos is when the connection is slow and they come off jerky. One of the reason I like "The Daily Dish" are the photos and videos that support her topic. The ability to view streaming videos has been a major strength for the internet in recent years... keep'em coming!
Permalink 01/12/08 @ 07:25
Comment from: Kakaako Blogger [Visitor] · http://www.myadvertiser.com/kakaako
Campaign outsiders have no right to speculate or criticize. I used to work for Mazie Hirono when she was a representative in the State House. The public rarely got to see those moments when she was in the district, meeting people up close, hearing their problems one-on-one, weeping with them, holding their hands through the pain. I SO wanted to alert the media to show them that side of her! If you show strength, you're a B....if you cry, you're either faking it or are weak. How can women win either way?
Permalink 01/12/08 @ 17:00
Comment from: hemajang [Visitor]
Kakaako Blogger: We all have the right to speculate or criticize any politician whether we are campaign insiders or an outsider. I know what you mean though, that we really don't know a person unless you have had a personal relationship and really got to know him/her but isn't that what a campaign is all about? ...to show your constituents what your candidate is all about, their character, position on issues, etc. Showing compassion for your fellow human being and tearing is not a sign of weakness for man or woman...a strong character trait imho. But then again, there are some that will play to the crowd to elicit a sympathetic response. I'm speculating of course, but Hilary's brink of tears moment appeared to be a campaign tactic.
Permalink 01/12/08 @ 20:56

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