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The Hot Seat
From politicians to newsmakers to everyday people in the news — Editorial and Opinion Editor Jeanne Mariani-Belding puts them in the Hot Seat, and lets you ask the questions. So get ready. Let the conversation begin.
Reach Jeanne at jmbelding@honoluluadvertiser.com.
Posted on: November 6, 2007 at 11:56:48 am
On the Hot Seat: Gary Gill , project manager for Waimea Valley’s Hi’ilei Aloha

Welcome to The Hot Seat. Joining us live today (Nov. 6) from noon to 1 p.m. will be Gary Gill, the new project manager for Hi’ilei Aloha, the nonprofit corporation created by the Office of Hawaiian Affairs charged with creating a subsidiary to run Waimea Valley. Gary is slated to be executive director of that subsidiary.

He'll be taking your questions on The Hot Seat live from noon to 1 p.m.

Two years ago, a developer has planned to subdivide the valley and build luxury homes. In order to save the valley, OHA partnered with the city, state, the Trust for Public Lands and the military to purchase Waimea.

Now, Gill, a former city councilman and environmentalist, will help chart the course for the ahupua’a.

Just a reminder of our ground rules: Please keep your questions concise and on point to allow us to get to as many folks as possible; and let’s keep it civil – no personal attacks please.

With that, let’s chat.

Comments:

Comment from: Jeanne Mariani-Belding [Member]
To get us rolling, here's one from Joe M.:

Ask Gary what qualifies him to be the project manager of Hi'ilei Aloha? Ask him to give examples of his past peformances/experience that will have a role in his new venture that will improve Waimea Valley for now and the future.

What will be his first moves when he is appointed?

What is Gary’s vision for Waimea Valley?
Permalink 11/06/07 @ 11:57
Comment from: John [Visitor]
Hi Gary, Now that OHA has controll of development of Waimea Valley, What do you see as its main objective? Will the public be able to use the valley and falls? Will there be a charge to enter? Are you going to cater to tourist?
Permalink 11/06/07 @ 12:02
Comment from: Gary Gill [Member]
Aloha, I'm happy to be on the Hot Seat.

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Aloha, Joe. M.
I was chosen by Hi'ilei Aloha because of my experience in community work and protection of the environment. I've done a number of things, one of the ones that people see as immediately relevant is my work with Kokua Kalihi Valley. I was in charge of developing a 100-acre nature park in the back of Kalihi Valley and I have had decades of experience working with diverse people and diverse interests. I've already been appointed and one of my first moves was to meet with different community leaders. My vision for Waimea Valley is to keep it an intact ahupua'a -- from the mountain to the sea -- and a place for a living, learning and practicing Hawaiian culture.
Permalink 11/06/07 @ 12:04
Comment from: Jeanne Mariani-Belding [Member]
Here’s one sent via e-mail from David C. Johnson:
If you have had an opportunity to review the forecast, do you feel there will adequate funds for infrastructure upgrade and maintenance?
Thank you.

Permalink 11/06/07 @ 12:05
Comment from: Jay [Visitor]
Hey Gary:

Sea Life Park just laid off some of its staff.

Waimea Valley has had financial difficulties with previous tourism operators.

How committed financially is OHA to Waimea's future, and how does the limited liability non-profit management structure enhance that future?

Does the non-profit management also limit OHA's financial and legal liabilities?

Could Waimea survive a tourism downturn>
Permalink 11/06/07 @ 12:08
Comment from: Gary Gill [Member]
RE: Hi Gary, Now that OHA has controll of development of Waimea Valley, What do you see as its main objective? Will the public be able to use the valley and falls? Will there be a charge to enter? Are you going to cater to tourist?

++++
Aloha John,
In addition to perpetuating Hawaiian culture, we would like to protect the existing botanical collection in the valley and make Waimea an example of environmental sustainability. To support this work, we will continue to welcome both kama'aina and malihini.
The fees collected for visiting the valley will support our mission.
Permalink 11/06/07 @ 12:09
Comment from: Jeanne Mariani-Belding [Member]
Here's one posted earlier from: Moke Young [Visitor]:

Aloha Mr. Gill,

Waimea Valley on the North Shore of Oahu was a very special location for me as a 5 year old because it reminded one of the Old West with horses, covered wagons and Paniolo to include wannabes like me.

My uncle Paul would whistle early in the morning from his Ranch home and the horses would come running in full gallop from their overnight bedding area within the wooded areas. It was impressive!

As a kid with a John Wayne starter kit that included Tonto’s bow and arrow, I really felt as if I were a young broncobuster and especially when I got to ride a masculine old gray spotted gelding that ruled the herd.

From the time you entered the Waimea Valley, you could immediately feel the positive vibe in the area of the food and gift shop area entrance way. I always knew that I was in a special place and one where early day Hawaiian’s and their interests flourished for so many reasons; the other location atop Chinaman’s Hat.

Of interest in the early sixties, was the challenge of jumping of the Waimea Falls cliff. On one occasion, I remember seeing a cliff diving enthusiasts that hit his head on a rock and blood dripping down his forehead as he was transported down the trail by way of an unusual tourist tour vehicle they used to shuttle customers.

Waimea Valley has to be one of the finest examples of why Hawaiian hierarchy bounded landmasses in the form of ahupua’a that started from a mountain peak all the way to the ocean. The ocean waves there are the worlds most challenging and the fishing great too. My Dad’s favorite location to gather Limu Kohu was there to the left of Waimea Bay. We use to catch a lot of fish there too using a throw net.

Above the Valley includes a popular Heiau by Hawaiian standards, and in my mind, was built there because of the vibe too.

I am hoping that the area will be preserved by cultural related use and not land set-aside on a neutral basis. It’s an awesome platform to practice Farming, Medicine, Ranching, Meditating, Surfing, Composing Hawaiian Music, Practicing Hula and a host of other subject matter where the user may harness the positive energy and direct it toward learning. I learned through 27 years of travel and experience that whenever ones solution is tied into learning, success will follow 9 times out of 10!

What are your personal feelings and did you feel the energy that I’ve described to above?

With Aloha,

Edmond Moke Young Jr., RRPT
Sr. Health Physicist moke@rock.com
Permalink 11/06/07 @ 12:10
Comment from: Gary Gill [Member]
RE: Here’s one sent via e-mail from David C. Johnson:
If you have had an opportunity to review the forecast, do you feel there will adequate funds for infrastructure upgrade and maintenance?
Thank you.

++++
Aloha David,
We know that there are millions of dollars of maintenance work to be done and we are looking into how to secure funding.
Permalink 11/06/07 @ 12:12
Comment from: Jeanne Mariani-Belding [Member]

And here's one sent via e-mail from Prof. Trenchard:
Gary, you may not know this fact, but Chief Maui Loa made the superior bid to purchase Waimea Valley from the developer and Mayor Hanneman knew of the superior bid. Nevertheless, Mayor Hanneman ignored the superior bid and gave the title to the community group instead. This action probably was a violation of federal anti trust laws and is probably actionable by Maui Loa. How do you explain this?
Permalink 11/06/07 @ 12:14
Comment from: Lisa [Visitor]
Gary, Because Waimea will need funding for maintenance and such do you foresee it turning into the old "Adventure Park" to draw in tourist dollars?
Permalink 11/06/07 @ 12:18
Comment from: Gary Gill [Member]
RE: Hey Gary:

Sea Life Park just laid off some of its staff.

Waimea Valley has had financial difficulties with previous tourism operators.

How committed financially is OHA to Waimea's future, and how does the limited liability non-profit management structure enhance that future?

Does the non-profit management also limit OHA's financial and legal liabilities?

Could Waimea survive a tourism downturn>

+++++
Aloha Jay,
The Office of Hawaiian Affairs is committed to supporting Waimea Valley financially.
It is our belief that Waimea would survive a tourism downturn because tourism is not our primary objective. Our primary objective is to preserve the valley and perpetuate Hawaiian culture.
Permalink 11/06/07 @ 12:22
Comment from: Jeanne Mariani-Belding [Member]

And here's one more from Kyle A. :

When the OHA announcement was made the OHA trustee wrote that you have ties to the North Shore, what are those ties?
Permalink 11/06/07 @ 12:24
Comment from: Gary Gill [Member]
RE: Aloha Mr. Gill,

Waimea Valley on the North Shore of Oahu was a very special location for me as a 5 year old because it reminded one of the Old West with horses, covered wagons and Paniolo to include wannabes like me.

My uncle Paul would whistle early in the morning from his Ranch home and the horses would come running in full gallop from their overnight bedding area within the wooded areas. It was impressive!

As a kid with a John Wayne starter kit that included Tonto’s bow and arrow, I really felt as if I were a young broncobuster and especially when I got to ride a masculine old gray spotted gelding that ruled the herd.

From the time you entered the Waimea Valley, you could immediately feel the positive vibe in the area of the food and gift shop area entrance way. I always knew that I was in a special place and one where early day Hawaiian’s and their interests flourished for so many reasons; the other location atop Chinaman’s Hat.

Of interest in the early sixties, was the challenge of jumping of the Waimea Falls cliff. On one occasion, I remember seeing a cliff diving enthusiasts that hit his head on a rock and blood dripping down his forehead as he was transported down the trail by way of an unusual tourist tour vehicle they used to shuttle customers.

Waimea Valley has to be one of the finest examples of why Hawaiian hierarchy bounded landmasses in the form of ahupua’a that started from a mountain peak all the way to the ocean. The ocean waves there are the worlds most challenging and the fishing great too. My Dad’s favorite location to gather Limu Kohu was there to the left of Waimea Bay. We use to catch a lot of fish there too using a throw net.

Above the Valley includes a popular Heiau by Hawaiian standards, and in my mind, was built there because of the vibe too.

I am hoping that the area will be preserved by cultural related use and not land set-aside on a neutral basis. It’s an awesome platform to practice Farming, Medicine, Ranching, Meditating, Surfing, Composing Hawaiian Music, Practicing Hula and a host of other subject matter where the user may harness the positive energy and direct it toward learning. I learned through 27 years of travel and experience that whenever ones solution is tied into learning, success will follow 9 times out of 10!

What are your personal feelings and did you feel the energy that I’ve described to above?

With Aloha,

Edmond Moke Young Jr., RRPT
Sr. Health Physicist moke@rock.com

++++
Aloha Moke,
One thing I know for sure is that Waimea Valley has a special place in the heart of many thousands of people. I have heard from locals and visitors about their experience in and love for the valley. Everyone I have spoken to is excited about the future of the valley and shares your enthusiasm. I'm excited about the positive changes we will bring to Waimea.
Permalink 11/06/07 @ 12:25
Comment from: Tina [Visitor]
I think it's wonderful what OHA is doing to preserve Waimea. I went to a friends wedding there a couple of years ago and it was a magnificent outdoor wedding. Do you think it possible that Waimea could become "the destination" place for weddings in Hawaii?
Permalink 11/06/07 @ 12:26
Comment from: Gary Gill [Member]
RE: And here's one sent via e-mail from Prof. Trenchard:
Gary, you may not know this fact, but Chief Maui Loa made the superior bid to purchase Waimea Valley from the developer and Mayor Hanneman knew of the superior bid. Nevertheless, Mayor Hanneman ignored the superior bid and gave the title to the community group instead. This action probably was a violation of federal anti trust laws and is probably actionable by Maui Loa. How do you explain this?

++++++
Aloha Professor Trenchard,
I am not familiar with this and am unable to respond.
Permalink 11/06/07 @ 12:28
Comment from: Jeanne Mariani-Belding [Member]

Here’s one from Patrick:
Aloha! Mr. Gill, I was a former advocate for your father, Tom who is a partner with my cousin Wade and my question is are you spearheading the procedure guidelines in regards to entertainment production or will there be "Live" entertainment, if so, who is coordinating the program. I just registered with Kau Inoa, IMUA!
Permalink 11/06/07 @ 12:29
Comment from: Gary Gill [Member]
RE: Gary, Because Waimea will need funding for maintenance and such do you foresee it turning into the old "Adventure Park" to draw in tourist dollars?

++++
Aloha Lisa,
Absolutely not. We also think that following our vision of cultural perpetuation will attract tourists.
Permalink 11/06/07 @ 12:32
Comment from: Jo [Visitor]
Hi Gary, My question is this; What assurances can you give us (the public) that Waimea will be preserved in perpetuity? In other words, how will we know if all of it, or part of it will ever be put up for sale?
Permalink 11/06/07 @ 12:32
Comment from: Gary Gill [Member]
RE: And here's one more from Kyle A. :

When the OHA announcement was made the OHA trustee wrote that you have ties to the North Shore, what are those ties?

++++
Aloha Kyle,
As someone born and raised in Hawai'i, I have visited Waimea since I was a young boy with my family. More recently, I enjoyed playing volleyball on the beach at Waimea and my wife's parents live in Pupukea and we visit often.
Permalink 11/06/07 @ 12:35
Comment from: Jeanne Mariani-Belding [Member]

And here's one via e-mail from Curtis:

How much is all this preservation costing taxpayers please? How would you answer to those who feel we have greater needs, like fixing our sewers and other stuff that's falling apart. Where are the priorities?

Permalink 11/06/07 @ 12:37
Comment from: Gary Gill [Member]
RE: I think it's wonderful what OHA is doing to preserve Waimea. I went to a friends wedding there a couple of years ago and it was a magnificent outdoor wedding. Do you think it possible that Waimea could become "the destination" place for weddings in Hawaii?

++++
Aloha Tina,
Waimea is many things to many people. Many families think of it as an ideal place to wed. We anticipate continuing weddings as one of the many activities at Waimea.
Permalink 11/06/07 @ 12:38
Comment from: Gary Gill [Member]
RE: Here’s one from Patrick:
Aloha! Mr. Gill, I was a former advocate for your father, Tom who is a partner with my cousin Wade and my question is are you spearheading the procedure guidelines in regards to entertainment production or will there be "Live" entertainment, if so, who is coordinating the program. I just registered with Kau Inoa, IMUA!

+++++
Aloha Patrick,
We want to continue to encourage live entertainment and special events in the valley that are consistent with the vision.
Permalink 11/06/07 @ 12:42
Comment from: Jeanne Mariani-Belding [Member]

Here's another one via e-mail from Christian L. :

I just don't see how Waimea can sustain itself financially, with the staff, maintenance and all that. The fees won't begin to cover it. What is your financial sustainability plan, Mr. Gill?
Permalink 11/06/07 @ 12:45
Comment from: Gary Gill [Member]
RE: Hi Gary, My question is this; What assurances can you give us (the public) that Waimea will be preserved in perpetuity? In other words, how will we know if all of it, or part of it will ever be put up for sale?

++++
Aloha Jo,
Waimea Valley was purchased for the purpose of preservation. To guarantee that continues, OHA issued a public access and conservation easement held by the city. Any future owner would have to abide by the requirements of that easement to protect the natural and cultural resources there.
Permalink 11/06/07 @ 12:46
Comment from: Rob [Visitor]
What types of activities will be done at Waimea to educate the public and tourists about Hawaiian Culture? I think it's important that all people learn and respect the host culture here.
Permalink 11/06/07 @ 12:47
Comment from: Gary Gill [Member]
RE: And here's one via e-mail from Curtis:

How much is all this preservation costing taxpayers please? How would you answer to those who feel we have greater needs, like fixing our sewers and other stuff that's falling apart. Where are the priorities?

++++
Aloha Curtis,
Right now, no taxpayer money is being used to preserve Waimea. We will be managing the valley and preserving its resources primarily with funds generated on site. Saving Waimea was a big priority to the North Shore community and all of O'ahu.
Permalink 11/06/07 @ 12:53
Comment from: Gary Gill [Member]
RE: Here's another one via e-mail from Christian L. :

I just don't see how Waimea can sustain itself financially, with the staff, maintenance and all that. The fees won't begin to cover it. What is your financial sustainability plan, Mr. Gill?

++++
Aloha Christian L.,
Waimea has been profitable in the past and we will make it self-sustaining in the future. To do this, we will need to balance the number of daily visitors and the fees that they are asked to pay.
Permalink 11/06/07 @ 12:56
Comment from: Gary Gill [Member]
RE: What types of activities will be done at Waimea to educate the public and tourists about Hawaiian Culture? I think it's important that all people learn and respect the host culture here

++++
Aloha Rob,
We hope to have crafts, Hawaiian language, lauhala weaving, hula, woodcarving and other traditional and customary practices. One of the great things about Waimea is that it has the physical resources necessary to support these practices.
Permalink 11/06/07 @ 12:59
Comment from: Jeanne Mariani-Belding [Member]
Sorry folks, we’re out of time. Thanks to all of our participants, and a special thanks to Gary Gill for answering questions from our readers. Nice job, Gary.

Be sure to watch for excerpts of this session in Sunday’s Focus section. And watch this spot to hear who our next guest will be.

In the meantime, tell me who YOU want to see, on the Host Seat. You can e-mail me at jmbelding@honoluluadvertiser.com

See you next week, on the Hot Seat.
Permalink 11/06/07 @ 12:59
Comment from: kehaulani [Visitor]
Aloha Gary, welcome to Waimea Valley. Would Waimea Valley become a State Park? It would help with the maintenance and groundskeeping. Though the workers are doing the best they can with what they have, wouldn't it be more sensible? By the way , where is the City's Easement? Did anyone answer that one yet?
Permalink 11/06/07 @ 13:00
Comment from: Gary Gill [Member]
Mahalo for the opportunity to share our vision. We'll see you at Waimea Valley -- Only $5 for kama'aina.
Permalink 11/06/07 @ 13:01
Comment from: Gary Gill [Member]
RE: Aloha Gary, welcome to Waimea Valley. Would Waimea Valley become a State Park? It would help with the maintenance and groundskeeping. Though the workers are doing the best they can with what they have, wouldn't it be more sensible? By the way , where is the City's Easement? Did anyone answer that one yet?

++++
Aloha Kehaulani,
Maintenance and groundskeeping workers will be on staff with the Waimea Valley nonprofit company. The public access and conservation easement covers the entire property.
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