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Prep Talk
Wes Nakama has been a huge fan of high school sports since his elementary school days in the '70s. As a teenager, he would select "pretend" all-star and all-state teams and write stories about them just for fun. Now he does it for a living. Come visit Wes' prep sports world and join in the conversation.
Reach Wes at wnakama@honoluluadvertiser.com.
Posted on: March 21, 2008 at 10:38:10 am
Imagine Punahou ... as a public school?

DENVER -- OK, since SOME-body wen complain about my topic yesterday, JUS fo' YOU, I'll turn the attention back to high schools today ... even though I happen to be almost halfway across the country covering the nation's No. 1 sporting event of the week.

Seriously, though, I thought about this particular topic on Tuesday, but as I mentioned in a comment my first priority that night was to take care of stuff for the print edition and I was also wiped out from 3,500 or so miles of travel.

I also feared that the mere mention of a school beginning with the letter "P" would only ignite another round of bashing, trashing and deleting. Lord knows we have had way too much of that already.

Anyway, after landing in Colorado early Tuesday afternoon, I jumped on one of those "shared ride" shuttles to take me to my hotel downtown. Like other shuttles, this was a good deal at $12 one way but as usual, it also means other people will be dropped off before you.

But this time it wasn't so bad because there was only one other customer riding in the van, a late middle-aged guy who was giving me a brief overview of the Denver metropolis.

Without even knowing that my beat is high school sports (he knew I was a sports reporter), the guy started telling me about a high school near his house called Cherry Creek (Greenwood Village, Colo.).

He mentioned how they're a sports power, how the quarterback last season was Jack Elway (signed with Arizona State), how John Elway was an assistant coach for his son's team. The guy also said the school dominates in swimming, that former Olympic medalist Amy Van Dyken went there, that they just raised $100,000 for a new baseball stadium.

He mentioned how Sports Illustrated ranked Cherry Creek as one of the top sports high schools in the country.

As we took the off-ramp from the freeway, the guy even gave the driver an alternate route to his house so we could drive past this high school he was talking about.

"That way you can see Cherry Creek,” he said.

The school did look impressive, with a nice football stadium and all-weather track.

The guy then told me they have about 3,500 students (grades 9-12).

"It's a public school?” I asked.

"Yeah, public,” he said.

From all the previous descriptions, to me the school sounded a lot like Punahou. I mean, would you think John Elway -- Denver's greatest and wealthiest sports hero ever -- would send his kid to a public school?

But one thing good about traveling is it gives you a different perspective.

At most places on the Mainland, including the three metropolises I have lived in (Los Angeles, Miami and the Bay Area), most of the private schools are smaller and do not have dominant academic and sports programs compared to those in Hawai'i.

De La Salle was one exception, maybe St. Thomas Aquinas (Fort Lauderdale) was another. Mater Dei (Santa Ana, Calif.).

But in general, many of the high-profile schools I've seen on the Mainland are public. Like Long Beach Poly. Or Mira Costa (Manhattan Beach, Calif.).

So it makes me wonder what Mainland people would think if they were to read this blog and see all the heated debate over ILH vs. OIA, supposed biases and advantages and politics regarding private schools and the constant bashing of the school beginning with the letter "P.”

I'm guessing many would think, "What's the big deal?”

After all, it sounds like the "Punahou of Colorado” is a public school.

Imagine that.

Comments:

Comment from: tvguy [Visitor]
It's the sad reality that Public schools on the mainland are taken care of better by their local governments. I myself lived in Colorado for awhile and the public school my kid attended was beautiful and the academics were very good. Like Wes, I learned that there was no fear of getting less than what you would at a private school, no public/private school arguments.
Permalink 03/21/08 @ 11:03
Comment from: stacyj [Visitor]
Interesting post Wes. Hang in there and keep 'em coming.

My mom grad from a public school in Ohio. When we went to her 30 year reunion, I could not believe the facilities at her school. My aunty warned us that the school was in bad shape. Here's bad shape....an indoor and an outdoor olympic pool, indoor track, 2 auditoriums, a planeterium (however it is spelt), 2 cafeterias, etc.

Imagine the opportunities public school kids would have if their schools were like Punahou both academically and facility-wise.
Permalink 03/21/08 @ 11:53
Comment from: bulla [Visitor]
ironically, it is sad that living in hawaii makes you realize that sometimes that private school education might be a neccesity and not a choice....

we have good public schools here, for the most part, but in the mainland, how can what they call 'public' rival our private? interesting stuff....
Permalink 03/21/08 @ 11:56
Comment from: stacyj [Visitor]
Oh, I forgot....Do these people who complain about the ILH-OIA stuff realize that there have been many other posts about things such as the Kahuku football controversy, the Kalani bball coach issue, all star selections, etc. I find that Wes tends to report about the goings on in high school sports...be it ILH, OIA and a little of the neighbor islands.

If you don't like what he posts, feel free not to read his blog. Personally, I would hate to see him say "heck with this cr*p, I ain't doing this anymore." That, to me, would be worse than reading about mostly ILH stories or mostly OIA stories.
Permalink 03/21/08 @ 11:58
Comment from: windward [Visitor] · http://windward
When the State places a premium on education money is not an issue and facilities are afforded for kids at all levels. It's frustrating to have politicians here promise to make education priority no.1 and not come thru. I thought GOV. LINGLE would make a difference but she chooses to spend over a half billion $ to buy a resort property catering to her select interest group. She lied like all the rest. Meanwhile students must continue to try and improve on poor test scores in classrooms with temps in the 90's and equipment and supplies that are woefully outdated. Even the notorius Columbine High School in Colorado is blessed with outstanding facilities that would make Punahou envious. Lingle is showing her rich girl upbringing. We need real people in office who actually have kids in the public school system before changes will happen in Hawaii.
Permalink 03/21/08 @ 12:02
Comment from: truth [Visitor]
It really is sad to see how dismal our public education system is compared to the mainland. Not only in the athletics department but even more so in the education part. It seems like the government here in hawaii and the DOE just dont care.
Permalink 03/21/08 @ 17:54
Comment from: JW [Visitor]
Wes --- We're all in denial! As long as the overwhelming percentage of the "powers-that-be" (politicians, DOE/Board of Education members) send their kids to "Private School" --- as they seemingly do in Hawaii --- we'll never have the public school's we deserve.
And what if half of the money Bishop Estate invests in Kamehameha Schools went to the public school system in Hawaii? Wouldn't that truly help alot more children of Hawaiian ancestry (and there can still be Kamehameha Schools, too!).
And Punahou (and the rest of the ILH) can behave like a "Private School" is supposed to --- they can recruit athletes (and admit it and be proud of it!).
JW


Permalink 03/21/08 @ 18:34
Comment from: Hammerin Hank [Visitor]
My public high school in the Hudson Valley region of New York had a great gym and good locker room. When I went to college, the locker room was a travesty compared to my high school.
Permalink 03/21/08 @ 22:40
Comment from: old diver [Visitor]
I am mystified with the false belief that all mainland public schools are better than Hawaii's schools. Not all mainland schools are funded the same way. Some are funded by property taxes others are funded by taxes raised by the school district. Public schools in rich districts that are funded by property taxes are flush with money while those in poor districts are underfunded. Public schools cannot be like Punahou for the simple reason that Punahou is allowed to discriminate on who it admits. And if you don't conform after you are admitted they kick you out without having to solve the problem. Parent's who can afford it prefer the sterile enviroment private schools provide. Public schools cannot establish sterile envroments because discriminatory admittence policies are not allowed. Hawaii's public schools are in desperate need of some out of the box thinking and Lingle has no grasp of the problem. Point of thes tirade is that comparing Punahou to public schools is just plain stupid.
Permalink 03/21/08 @ 23:22
Comment from: las vegas [Visitor]
See Wes, if you put your mind to the task, you can come up with a insightful and interesting topic that's related to high school.

All it took was a little effort and a lucky chance encounter.
Permalink 03/22/08 @ 00:08
Comment from: Wes [Member]
All right, fair enough.

But you gotta cut me some slack today and probably tomorrow, 'cuz Derrick is on the doorstep of history and this should be acknowledged.

He is, after all, a Hawai'i high school product ...




Mahalo for reading.
Permalink 03/22/08 @ 00:48
Comment from: Buff50 [Visitor]
I think the Derrick Low topic is relevant and appropriate. He was a high school star in Hawaii and many people who follow the high school beat threads would like to hear or read about a former Hawaii Prep star.

Obviously las vegas has nothing better to do than belittle you. If he/she doesn't like the topic then he/she can go elsewhere.

I applaud your interest towards Derrick and I'm sure most people want to read about it. If this topic was placed in another blog, I would not have found it. So it seems to be in the prefect place.

The forum is called prep talk. That is relative. Where does it say that the prep talk has to be about current prep players/sports.

If you want to write about former prep players from the 40's, 50's, 60's, whatever, you should be able to. For anyone that does not want to read it, then don't click on the link. It's not like a virus is forcing you to open this link.

Once again, I don't think anyone really supports las vegas' view since no one has come to the support of that pessimistic person since his/her comments were made a few days ago.
Permalink 03/22/08 @ 14:55
Comment from: oia [Visitor]
Wes,

To bad you are not on the islands, you missed a great OIA red west baseball game. Between Mililani and Aiea (Antolin and Castillo) match up. Remebered last year blog about them? Both did very well but Castillo and Aiea came out ahead.
Permalink 03/22/08 @ 20:36
Comment from: Local & Mainlander [Visitor]
It is great to see this subject discussed. There are so many things the DOE could do for our students and our teachers. Respect, money to live on(do you notice as the teacher salary goes up the supply money goes down and teachers must subsidize more?) We are fortunate that our schools have some equality. It is pracitical and yes some HS on the mainland have more money than the colleges for much of the same reasons we are discussing. Be fair and loving to our students, they are our future. Yes, many of them work very hard for their success. Others need lots of support to get there in their own way by parents and teachers.
Permalink 03/22/08 @ 22:37
Comment from: K-Tom [Visitor]
Interesting topic. But one very critical ingredient missing at most public schools, at least on Oahu (I'd give an exception to Kahuku), is that there really isn't a broad-based popular notion of "community" surrounding our various public high schools. Instead, there are a number of smaller, fragmented communities involved with each school -- but not a contiguous, broad-shouldered community with clout. Our state-run DOE ensures that schools are detached from their immediate surrounding community of homes, families and businesses. And I think that's why Kalaheo, for example, doesn't have air-conditioning in all its classrooms (instead, we are trying to at least get floor fans in them all), doesn't have its own baseball field, football field, track, etc. Because Kalaheo has to get in line for each and every blessing from the state bureaucracy. In most mainland public school situations, there is a readily identifiable "community" that is directly involved in the school -- from providing tax dollars directly to school improvements to creating some kind of community center at the local high school, whether it be in the form of regular public meetings or, ala Kentucky, packing the gym (or field house) for every home basketball game. "Community" simply is missing from the equation at most public schools here. And I suggest that if the schools did have their own involved communities, our public education system would be in much better shape than it is now.
Permalink 03/26/08 @ 16:30

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