Yups I definitley got it, and deserved it. I hope I don't get kids like the young me. The tool of discipline used on me was a back scratcher. And not those wimpy wooden ones, but decently thick plastic.

Like the name? LoL...anyways, like your post. To this day, I'm still scared of "wooden spoons"--OUCHie!

You have the right idea nothing old school about it, its called common sense and it is in short supply in todays PC world where Bums are now called Homeless and treated like royalty, I can sympathize with people who have LOST a home due to a disaster, fire, hurricane etc. but I refuse to feel sorry for people who are unwilling to work to attain one? We will see more of this until we get rid of our liberal status quo political leaders who pander to such groups as they are growing in size unfortunately, the bald headed pony tail men find it more important to throw themselves on the ground about an inter island ferry for crying out loud?

i got lickins' some time it was dirty lickins' and you know what...i'm still all for it. both me and my husband got lickins' growing up and feel that we are better people today because of it. echoing everything you said, we were taught what to do and how to do it...if we didn't wanna follow the rules there were consequences and they weren't a surprise either! all of my nieces and nephews have the time out deal and for our family that just ain't working!

i also agree that punishment should be punishment. i believe prisoners should be at least treated humanely, but don't see why they should get paid to do anywork in prison. they can help alleviate some of our budget expenditures by learning how and producing goods we need here in the state. it should at least be a harsh enough penalty to remind them of their crime and why its wrong to do whatever they did.

I agree with you about this too. I'm only in my late-20's, but my sister and I never got lickens, but we got the look that would have resulted in lickens if we tried anything further. When I was young the four words that I did not want to hear was either, "go ask your dad" or "wait for your dad." You know asian parents ... dad don't talk much, but when he does, you know you messed up.

I have a younger brother too ... 10 years apart. he never got that upbringing ... he's spoiled as hell. always asks for money, talks major stink about his elders behind their back ... things my sister and i would have never tried when we were young. i think that directly relates to the fact that my dad mellowed out by the time he came around.

so yup, i see no problem with lickens. surprised the criminal justice system isn't harsher on offenders than they should be. instead of lethal injections, they should do more life sentences without parole. it costs a lot more on taxpayers to do that, but i think that would suck more as a criminal than lethal injection.

This is a good topic. I also agree that alot has to do with the parents. As a new parent, you hope that you don't spoil your child too much because nobody likes a spoiled kid who doesn't respect or value what they have, but at the same time you don't want to be too tough where the child may think that treating others in a tough manner is normal. Looking at the recent cases, at first glance you would think that the guy who beat the woman to death was raised by tough parents and that was the reason why he has such a violent temper. Whereas, looking at the second guy who threw the child off of the overpass it seems that he may have been spoiled. Maybe not in material items that he received, but the fact that his parents may not have disciplined him enough when he was younger. The fact that he was in a racing accident a couple of years back tells me that he doesn't respect others well being and cares only about himself. I hate to draw such a strong conclusion from the fact that he was racing, but people who put others lives in risk for their own enjoyment are just plain selfish. On a personal note, my local flavor tells me that these street racers deserve some serious cracks. Anyway, back to the topic, I don't think that because he was spoiled that led to him throwing the child over the overpass. I think that he has some mental issues. The question is if he always had these issues, or is it something that may have happened because of long term drug use. Meth has been proven to screw up the brain and make people schizophrenic. Looking at what will happen to him, it's about 99% that his attorney will use an insanity defense, and he may have truly been insane when he did that. That would be the only way you would be able to understand how someone could commit such an act. But, should he be entitled to such a defense if he caused him to go insane with prior drug use?

Regardles of how either were raised, it will eventually come down to what path the child wants to go down. Parents can try their best to instill great qualities and values in their child, and children form their decisions off of these qualities and values. However, the decision will eventually have to be made by that person.

As far as me, I grew up in a local family and always got lickins'. Never closed fist, but definitely spanking and a lot of slaps in the head, which til this day I think may have been a little much. I agree with you that tough love is the way to go. You don't have to necessarily give the kid lickins' but you have to be strong in where you stand to let the kid know you're serious. A lot of parents nowadays make more excuses for their children than parents in my generation. For example, if there was a problem at school, these new parents look more toward the other kids and teachers as the reason for the problem before they would look at their own child.

On a side note, I wanted to say that I'm glad that the Advertiser has added someone to their blogs who I can relate more to. Keep up the local flavor.

When we grew up, it was lickens with the belt. I think it's not necessarily a good thing to get the belt, but I agree that spankings should make a come back! When we got wise, one slap on the face or pinch on the cheek (the twisty pinch, not just the regular pinch) and we were sorry and respectful!

My brothers and me would get lickins with them old Hot Wheels tracks. You know...the orange hard plastic ones that was kinda whippy. Man! did that leave a mark.

Ho da shame. Getting lickins with your own toys. LOL

But my parents instilled in us to know what was right and what was wrong....nuff said. And live your life like that.

Good blog BTW.

My family comes from the mainland south, and we got switched (also called a whoopin'). That's when your daddy makes you go out and pick your own tree switch, a really thin, bendy branch off a bush, then you watch while he pulls all the leaves off--all the time you wish the Earth would open up and swallow you before he gets done. Then he'd make you stand in front of him while he calmly explained why you were getting switched--and you are really sweating and shaking and clinging to hope that Jesus will come back and keep you from getting switched! When that switchin' starts, it stings so bad! OUCH!! The switch was very effective because it wasn't about how hard you got hit (so daddy could never really hurt you bad), but the WAY you got hit made it 10 times worse!

Then my dad would always leave me to my tears to think about what I'd done and come back later to tell me he loved me, and he hated to switch me (yeah right! I never believed that one!), but it was his job to teach me right from wrong or teach me to not do dangerous things to keep me safe or just teach me to use my head and listen to him and my mom. Then he'd hug me, and I'd wish that Jesus WOULD come back with a HUGE switch and get DADDY!!

When I grew up and went off to college, I realized that my daddy did me a big favor. All these spoiled kids with no manners and no sense of respect for others drove me nuts! It is not okay to be a selfish brat. I know this because my dad MADE SURE that I knew it!

I have 2 boys, just as stubborn as I was. I don't switch, but I have my wooden spoon for swats. They know that we have rules in our house that apply to them wherever they go. They know that my husband and I will be coming for them when they deliberately make the wrong choices. Serious issues earn them a whoopin', and they KNOW they don't want that!

Whether you give lickins or not, I wish more parents would take it serious when their kids look at them and say "No I won't, and you can't make me!"

Times have changed and not for the good with regard to "lickins" aka discipline aka morals. Small kid time, if we were bad we got lickins and looking back everytime it was justified.

Like you I have coached for almost 20 years at both the high school & youth levels. Started quite young coaching high school in the mid '70's. Took a break before returning and just hung it up 2 years ago at the high school again. In the '70s the kids were respectful and trusted what you had to say. I still see some of my former players and have a great time talking about the old days.

A lot of kids in this day and age think they know it all and are too good to listen, it's all about "me". Gotta look at the parents, they give them everything on a silver platter. No value in blood, sweat & tears anymore. They want glory, are selfish and are in love with themselves. They still are good "blue collar" players that you really appreciate. The problem is that these "hot dogs" really spoil it and make it hard on the team.

I just wish we could bring back the past and be able to give these "legends in their own minds" a well deserved "DIRTY LICKINS"!

GREAT topic. I think about this to myself ALL the time. We have to stop walking on eggshells with kids these days. Good for you and your baseball program.

And "the stick"! That is exactly what I had, and that's exactly what it was called! That cracked me up. I think it was actually usually a wooden spoon or a ruler. I guess wood=stick. Fair enough.

my momma is from korea. trust me, "lickins" was definetly not a good meal. i think thats what kids need more of nowadays. now, everyone says your a bad parent or cruel if you spank you kid. thats a bunch of bullcrock on a chef salad.

I bet all u people did not get good licken that u well remember until u die, well my parent was one to remember, I know I make mistake more offen, my punishment is to kneel down on hawaiian salt with your both arms spread to your side level with your shoulder, and in your palm facing up on top of that a three inch thick book the size of phone book, and she sit next to me looking for that arm to move down lower, and if it move you get wack from a belt that use my dad from military with the buckle still on, this what I call punishment that I well remember until now that I am 50 years old , and I did change for that one day, still in my head, but now both my parents are gone, and I can forget it some how, kid now days are more trouble that I was, but I wont use it to my kid which I dont have any. Aloha

I grew up with lickin's. My father was a cop and back in those days, it was not only okay for parents to lick you but cops got away with more than they do now. I think I came out okay.

As for my kids now, I don't lick them and I think they are pretty good kids. In this day and age, we have to use other means to get to our kids.

Hello, I just got through reading your blog, and I gotta say....parents and the laws are way too linient than it should be. Parents can't even wack their own kids anymore, and if they do it's child abuse. When I was growing up I got lickin's from my mom, and when my dad got home from work I got worked from him too. I don't think one should be put in the hospital, but there definately needs to be some sort of discipline so that one thinks twice before doing it a second time. Kids get away with way too much these days, so they tend to do it repeatedly knowing they won't be punished. When I was growing up, my parents always told my teachers right in front of me that if I ever act up, do not hesitate to wack um. My teachers never had the need to wack me cause I always thought twice before I did it. Anyways, I think parents are to blame in most cases, for not putting their feets down when they need to. Yes they are not my kids so I shouldn't tell them what they should and should not do, BUT they are the kids who will be growing up in this society with MY kids, your kids, and everyone elses kids right? SO YES we do have a right to tell you irresponsible parents to discipline your kids. That is all

Wow - you guys & gals were real kolohe (rascal) back in the day eh?

My how times have changed - and I agree with those who have been so nice to post comments on my lonely blogs (sniff sniff) - that lickins (aka whoopins for our peeps down south) was an integral part of us growing up.

Just wanted to point out that the lickins I received was for the lessons that my parents wanted engrained in my head and to carry with me through life (as it was intended for) - not just because I didn't do the dishes...although I never missed doing it two days in a row bumbye I would get lickins.

Shoot...my parents would buy cases of yardsticks for me and my brother...and when we got older and bigger the started using our toys to beat some sense into us (i.e. hot wheels tracks stacked 2-3 at a time), or those rubber slippahs that you can buy at longs for under a $1...the list can go on and on. I agree that todays youths have so much needed protection with the crimes that are being committed lately, but sometimes you have to be able to reprimand the child without them threatining you with CPS!

Yep. REAL old school. SO old school that I've never tried drugs and I can count the number of times on one hand I've consumed alcohol; and I can say the same for my friends . . . and family.

Study hard, speak up when you have to, but, do it politely as possible (especially when you're getting b&$%#*t presented in front of you), and behave.

My folks did it in a very intelligent, non-belligerent, nurturing, non-smart@$$ed way (unlike a lot of parents I see at the mall who seem to insist on putting on airs, using smart aleck remarks to their kids; cripes, you think their kids shared the exact same age as them and that they were in a nightclub or something. I take some of that back -- some of these parents act JUST like how their children act [!]).

And I'm glad I listened to the folks!

Yep. REAL old school. SO old school that I've never tried drugs and I can count the number of times on one hand I've consumed alcohol; and I can say the same for my friends . . . and family.

Study hard, speak up when you have to, but, do it politely as possible (especially when you're getting b&$%#*t presented in front of you), and behave.

My folks did it in a very intelligent, non-belligerent, nurturing, non-smart@$$ed way (unlike a lot of parents I see at the mall who seem to insist on putting on airs, using smart aleck remarks to their kids; cripes, you think their kids shared the exact same age as them and that they were in a nightclub or something. I take some of that back -- some of these parents act JUST like how their children act [!]).

And I'm glad I listened to the folks!

OMG I got lickens with anything my dad could reach. As for me I'm all for LICKENS, but in some circumstances I wished that my dad would of talk to me rather then giving me lickens because after a while I was so immuned that I just didn't care anymore and did want I wanted knowing that OMG if my dad found out I would get lickens, but ahhh who cares. Don't get me wrong my "lickens" was due to not listening and not just to beat me just because. But after awhile it got old.

Now I have 2 kids of my own, going on my third. And you know that saying your kids will act ten times worst to you then how you did to your parents, ahhhh yeah so true. And yes I do give them lickens. I try talking to them but it doesnt work and they only move when I start to yell or threaten them that they're gonna get lickens.

UGH DAM U DO DAM U DON'T

Howzit Braddah Lance! I too got lickens growing up, and I totally agree it did wonders for me. That's what these kids now a days need.

BUT, on the other hand, if it gets out of hand and the lickens turn to beatings, you could end up with someone like Alapeti Tunoa. I'm not saying that if you're abused you automatically become an abuser, but there does seem to be a cyclic pattern.

The bottom line is the lesson that each individual takes from it.